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		<title>Comment on Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221;: Paper, Yarn, and Processing by Ruth Frehner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Frehner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Chris,
Amanda Sigler sent me a note that you are working on WR, visualizing Joyce&#039;s technique of dealing with simultaneity.
I prepared a WR piece for an exhibition 10 years ago and I was so much reminded of my own work when I saw your pictures on your website. I never moved my work to digital space, but the exhibit was in the three dimensional space and consisted of 19 glass panels (about 2 metres in height) positioned across three rooms in a slight curve, so that you could, labyrinthlike, never see the whole. There was a vertical time scale on the two door posts which connected the rooms.  On the panels each of the episode was printed its appropriate height (i.e. indicating the time slot when these micro-events took place). In this way I could connect simultaneous events with a horizontal electrically lit coloured string, and I could connect e.g. leitmotivs that occurred throughout the whole episode (e.g. the throwaway) with a differently coloured string. Events that &quot;went their course&quot; could also be highlighted.
It was very interesting to see that things more or less worked out, and that each scene could be placed. 
If you are interested in my work, you might find my article in:  Joyce upon the Threshold, Proceedings of the London James Joyce Symposium, ed. Anne Fogarty and Tim Martin, Florida UP.
I could also send you some photos, if you wish.

With best wishes, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Ruth, Zürich james Joyce Foundation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chris,<br />
Amanda Sigler sent me a note that you are working on WR, visualizing Joyce&#8217;s technique of dealing with simultaneity.<br />
I prepared a WR piece for an exhibition 10 years ago and I was so much reminded of my own work when I saw your pictures on your website. I never moved my work to digital space, but the exhibit was in the three dimensional space and consisted of 19 glass panels (about 2 metres in height) positioned across three rooms in a slight curve, so that you could, labyrinthlike, never see the whole. There was a vertical time scale on the two door posts which connected the rooms.  On the panels each of the episode was printed its appropriate height (i.e. indicating the time slot when these micro-events took place). In this way I could connect simultaneous events with a horizontal electrically lit coloured string, and I could connect e.g. leitmotivs that occurred throughout the whole episode (e.g. the throwaway) with a differently coloured string. Events that &#8220;went their course&#8221; could also be highlighted.<br />
It was very interesting to see that things more or less worked out, and that each scene could be placed.<br />
If you are interested in my work, you might find my article in:  Joyce upon the Threshold, Proceedings of the London James Joyce Symposium, ed. Anne Fogarty and Tim Martin, Florida UP.<br />
I could also send you some photos, if you wish.</p>
<p>With best wishes, and looking forward to hearing from you.<br />
Ruth, Zürich james Joyce Foundation</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221;: Paper, Yarn, and Processing by Daryl</title>
		<link>http://www.cforster.com/2010/08/visualizing-wandering-rocks-paper-yarn-and-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about writing each section on a single line one on top of the other and then aligning left/right rather than top/bottom? Not so practical, that one, though maybe Keroac with his toilet paper composition would have approved.

For basic text parsing (for my purposes usually just opening a file, splitting it on something, and doing some regex), I tend to fall back on perl if I want to do it quickly, though there&#039;s much to like in python. I just happen to have basic muscle memory for doing things in perl, and I always have to go to the docs for python. Import antigravity indeed! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about writing each section on a single line one on top of the other and then aligning left/right rather than top/bottom? Not so practical, that one, though maybe Keroac with his toilet paper composition would have approved.</p>
<p>For basic text parsing (for my purposes usually just opening a file, splitting it on something, and doing some regex), I tend to fall back on perl if I want to do it quickly, though there&#8217;s much to like in python. I just happen to have basic muscle memory for doing things in perl, and I always have to go to the docs for python. Import antigravity indeed! <img src='http://www.cforster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221;: Paper, Yarn, and Processing by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cforster.com/2010/08/visualizing-wandering-rocks-paper-yarn-and-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl, thanks for sharing the Google Doc (just looking at it right now); I hope you&#039;ll share anything you come up if you keep playing. For my amateurish programming tastes, I always want to go with Python when working with text (in part because of the Natural Language Toolkit, NLTK, which is just great) and Processing for visualization. With them, I think, &lt;a href=&quot;http://xkcd.com/353/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Programming is fun again.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Your idea about cutting at the interruptions is interesting and raises, I think, the broader question about how best to try to &lt;em&gt;see&lt;/em&gt; what is going on here. Another approach, I think, would be to do a sort of 19-column version of the text, synching up the passages so that you can read any one section up/down, but move left/right to catch the synchronizations. I&#039;ve also just heard from a colleague that someone else has done a similar (though it sounds like more sophisticated) analog visualization of the episode. I&#039;ll be sure to add a new post on that when I learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl, thanks for sharing the Google Doc (just looking at it right now); I hope you&#8217;ll share anything you come up if you keep playing. For my amateurish programming tastes, I always want to go with Python when working with text (in part because of the Natural Language Toolkit, NLTK, which is just great) and Processing for visualization. With them, I think, <a href="http://xkcd.com/353/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Programming is fun again.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Your idea about cutting at the interruptions is interesting and raises, I think, the broader question about how best to try to <em>see</em> what is going on here. Another approach, I think, would be to do a sort of 19-column version of the text, synching up the passages so that you can read any one section up/down, but move left/right to catch the synchronizations. I&#8217;ve also just heard from a colleague that someone else has done a similar (though it sounds like more sophisticated) analog visualization of the episode. I&#8217;ll be sure to add a new post on that when I learn more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221;: Paper, Yarn, and Processing by Daryl</title>
		<link>http://www.cforster.com/2010/08/visualizing-wandering-rocks-paper-yarn-and-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for kicks, I &lt;a href=&quot;https://spreadsheets2.google.com/ccc?key=tgwokB9tXgMTC69VQlsHOXQ&amp;hl=en&amp;authkey=CIrLz_gC#gid=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graphed&lt;/a&gt; the line count deltas between interruptions. First I did absolute values and then I did raw numbers. The shape of the graph of absolute values is fairly interesting but probably not significant. 

I also finally downloaded processing and played around a little. It&#039;s definitely a neat program. Wish I had better ideas for what to do with it. I simply graphed word frequency in Ulysses; the curve was pretty predictable. I thought about doing something like an etymology lookup for all the words to determine relative Latin-ness or Saxonic of the the book (maybe graphed over time), but I lacked the gumption to follow through. Glad to have the software reference, in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for kicks, I <a href="https://spreadsheets2.google.com/ccc?key=tgwokB9tXgMTC69VQlsHOXQ&amp;hl=en&amp;authkey=CIrLz_gC#gid=0" rel="nofollow">graphed</a> the line count deltas between interruptions. First I did absolute values and then I did raw numbers. The shape of the graph of absolute values is fairly interesting but probably not significant. </p>
<p>I also finally downloaded processing and played around a little. It&#8217;s definitely a neat program. Wish I had better ideas for what to do with it. I simply graphed word frequency in Ulysses; the curve was pretty predictable. I thought about doing something like an etymology lookup for all the words to determine relative Latin-ness or Saxonic of the the book (maybe graphed over time), but I lacked the gumption to follow through. Glad to have the software reference, in any case.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221;: Paper, Yarn, and Processing by Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221; &#171; JJQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Visualizing &#8220;Wandering Rocks&#8221; &#171; JJQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the links between the different sections of &#8220;Wandering Rocks.&#8221;  Take a look at this post on his blog to see how he maps these links first with scissors, paste, and yarn before then moving this work [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the links between the different sections of &#8220;Wandering Rocks.&#8221;  Take a look at this post on his blog to see how he maps these links first with scissors, paste, and yarn before then moving this work [...]</p>
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